November 9, 2009

  • Liberals Tell The Truth About Health Care "Reform" On Video, In Their Own Words

    The plan the Federal Government would offer for citizens would not APPROACH the level those officials in Congress and Senate get. They refuse to accept any amendment subjecting them to have the same coverage.  I recently saw testimony in which  I heard several Democrats admit this is an attempt to push us eventually to a single-payer, Government-run program, and Robert Reich even admitted that young healthy people would have to pay more, and old people in the last part of life shouldn't expect to be allowed expensive extreme life-saving measures, and when it got too expensive to keep us alive they would allow us to die.

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  • The speaker in the second video is not Robert Reich, and I seriously doubt that those are his words.

    Why are you afraid of single-payer? It is the way almost every other country manages health care, and their drugs are cheaper, procedures are cheaper and, despite the lies of the health insurance cabal, care is readily available.

  • I have absolutely no problem with single-payer. I'm also not completely sure a public option would drive private insurance companies out of business (but one can only hope). Maybe if insurance companies actually became insurance companies instead of selling red tape and bureaucracy, the costs wouldn't have to be so high. They act like their margins are razor thin right now. They make huge amounts of money.

    The problem is that this is all speculation. No one knows what would happen if a public option was introduced. But that's not an excuse not to enact change.

  • Members of Congress are eligible — like all other
    federal employees — to sign up for one of the "cafeteria" health
    insurance plans offered all other federal employees.

    If they sign up
    for one of these policies, the federal government pays two-thirds of
    the premium and the Congressman pays the other one-third. This is
    comparable to insurance offered by many private employers.

    The good part about FEHBP, the Federal Employees Health Benefit Plan, is that the cost for the included plans are negotiated with the individual insurance companies, thus saving costs. Medicare, on the other hand, is one of the few fee-for-service, non-negotiated medical coverage plans. So having a menu of negotiated, price-controlled, private insurance plans like the FEHBP actually would not be so bad for the  taxpayer, not so good for insurance companies, and who knows whether or not it would be good for the consumer.

    And, just for your information, there is no coverage for abortion allowed in any of the plans offered by FEHBP.

  • Montages don't make compelling arguments. 

  • @TheGreatBout - Of course, they can't mean what they tell like-minded people they want to do.  They must be telling the truth when they deny that to the rest of us.

  • We should just socialize our health care system like Canada. They're doing well enough and we're all "NOOOO WE DUN WANNA BE LIKE CANERDUH" 

  • Oh, man. I would so love a single payer system, but I know that the mere thought of it would make some people shit a brick. I'm just grateful we're moving towards something though and that the public option isn't dead. The Stupak Amendment is pissing me off, but hopefully it will die in committee. :D  

  • I'm actually amazed that so many are missing a fundamental point you even made at the very beginning. NO ONE in congress or the senate are even remotely willing to accept this proposed healthcare plan for themselves. Why is that? If they won't accept it because what they have is so much better, why in the world should we be expected to accept it?!?

  • @MelFamy - after you wait 6 months for a simple biopsy sure.

    @AnamcharaConcepts - Exactly, if they won't touch it, why should we.

  • @Ghost0402 - Precisely! I still don't understand that one.

  • The interests that are being fought against have contributed over $100 MILLION dollars just in political donations to members of Congress. The nightmare stories that have emerged from Insurance companies make most people sick. Now you can't hold insurance companies accountable. But you can hold the government accountable. So unless insurance companies are willing to make the system more fair what is so shocking?
    Also the uninsured. Over 30 million AMERICANS...not illegals...AMERICANS are without insurance. What's the solution for that? If Private insurance companies offer better than a government system those who can take it will take it. The way the system is now your insurance company can drop you for any reason, jack up your rates for any reason and it is all done within the law and you have no say or push back. The biggest reason for bankruptcy over the past 5 years has been what? Medical bankruptcy. People who were dropped by their insurers and who were wiped out and lost everything. You have no voice to oppose the actions of your insurance company. You want to keep the system as it is?!?...

  • @Leonidas - Insurance companies and the government are too blame.  Smack the insurance companies with anti-trust law, open it up so they can compete across state borders, severely restrict mass-tort cases, and medical malpractice, get the federal government out of it period and let the states have the power to regulate the insurance standards are such state by state.

    Cose to half that number is folks my age who don't want to pay for it.  I haven't been sick in the last 3 years, so why pay for something i don't use?  The other half, if we get government out of the way, break the seudo monopoly the insurance companies have and sit bac and watch.

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